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DFACE DXA wrote:
http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17WJT7W7IEIK5057LD0MPLTGJV
heres my mpc3000 version with no double kicks. im gonna do a version wiht more kicks.


DFACE - it's expired, can you please send another link? Thanks.
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damn nobody peeped it before it expired. ill look for the file and up it later. cool
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Thanks!
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DFACE DXA wrote:
http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17WJT7W7IEIK5057LD0MPLTGJV
heres my mpc3000 version with no double kicks. im gonna do a version wiht more kicks.


yo, you guys gotta stop using yousendit lol... gets outdated real quick.
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someone is already chippping in with the 1200 i take it?
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Whats up with the swing test?

I own an MPC60, MPC2000, MPC2000XL, SP1200.

I can do some tests for you.

Hit me up.
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i know you're trying to find equivelents accross machines, but on the 60 (w/upgraded os) and the 3k, why not just use the 1/24th or 1/12th quantize to get that feel from the sp's tripplets? you can do swing as well, but why change the variable in the equastion? a 24th's a 24th weather its at 96 ppq or 24 ppq.

the swing on the 3k and 60 is the shit imho. the sp tripplets thou are unmistakable and pretty ideal..  ive used the 60 and 3k extensively for the last 15 years..

word. interested to see what comes out of it all..
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shawn rudiman wrote:
i know you're trying to find equivelents accross machines, but on the 60 (w/upgraded os) and the 3k, why not just use the 1/24th or 1/12th quantize to get that feel from the sp's tripplets? you can do swing as well, but why change the variable in the equastion? a 24th's a 24th weather its at 96 ppq or 24 ppq.

the swing on the 3k and 60 is the shit imho. the sp tripplets thou are unmistakable and pretty ideal..  ive used the 60 and 3k extensively for the last 15 years..

word. interested to see what comes out of it all..
-shawn


Looks like no official determination was ever made.  High swing percentages or values are cool for real swing timing or some cases triplet programming..notably 16T.  It boils down to preference.  

The SP swing seems to be really exaggerated when used for a slight late feel.  Even just one notch in hi-res at double tempo pushes notes pretty late.  

Comparably, in the 60 or 3000, you have more control.  I don't even mess with percentage in the 'timing correct' screen.  I just use amount because each amount increment simply pushes your ppqn quant by one notch respectively.  So amount 1 = .49, 2 = .50, etc.  I like to program drum parts with different amount values usually in 'later' mode to get a cool groove happenin.  I'm curious if the 60 swing values shift a little more randomly due to the older CPU, the 3000 is pretty damn solid.

One thing I've noticed about the 3000 quant is that it seems to orient around the top note in each bar, which for some reason pushes it slightly earlier than the other notes in the measure.  Something I've observed tracking the 3000 in Protools.

Anyway, I don't use actual swing timing much myself for general drum programming...could be 'apples vs. oranges' depending on the orientation.


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