| Archive for dxarmy.com sp1200 forum for users of emu sp1200 drumachine |
| DFACE DXA |
SWING TESTah the elusive swing test. its in the works.i have just the 3k's version if anybody wants the snd's/wav's to perform this test themselves hit me |
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| DRUMAT!C |
I'm down with that.... | ||
| HavDeaf! |
I'm down once I get my 60. Fuck the swing on a 2K, pos | ||
| DFACE DXA |
hahah
word i did a test with the XL 2deep bounsed with that shit tho. |
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| HavDeaf! |
That's a good thing, you don't need no pos 2k in your lab |
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| DFACE DXA |
ok heres a rar folder of the snds for 3k/60 and wavs for whoever else wants to convert them and open them. audio quality isnt important just that all the chops are the same for everyone testing.
http://s59.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3MV9VB2YBZIM41OX5L11OFDZQH its 3 hits from walk this way |
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| DFACE DXA |
Standard rock beat pattern (ie. kick, hat, snare, hat, kick, kick, snare, hat...) Also, consider adding a few double kicks (ie. ba-boom, boom, bap type pattern).
92 bpm 16th note swing @ 67% 184 bpm 8th note swing @ 67% --------------------------------------------- 92 bpm 16th note swing @ 71% 184 bpm 8th note swing @ 71% I will be uploading the basic version from the 3k and then after a version with double kicks |
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| DEEPDOWNINSIDE |
New 2 The Swing ElementYo wassup yall I am new here. Wassup with the swing test? What is the purpose can you explain. I have been trying to get up speed with the swing function for sometime however never see or hear much of a difference when I mess around with the function on my own. I have an MPC2000 and MPC60II. Can anyone help me out? Thanks! |
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| DFACE DXA |
swing is simply the percentage off of the selected timing you want your hit to quantize at
ex 67 percent is similar to a triplet hit we want to compare the diffences in swing among machnes 3k 2k 60 sp |
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| DEEPDOWNINSIDE |
AHHHHHH HAAAAA I think I got it guyz. I will try it ou thanks for the education! | ||
| TBC |
Ah tight!this is a dope test. i can't wait to see the results.nice one! |
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| HavDeaf! |
i just got my 60 today, so ima try this out within the next few days and post the results | ||
| HavDeaf! |
yo D can you post up that drum track so I kno what it sounds like?
I got an idea but i dunno |
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| sp87 |
I'm really interested to here the results of this shit... a widely discussed topic it is! | ||
| DFACE DXA |
http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17WJT7W7IEIK5057LD0MPLTGJV
heres my mpc3000 version with no double kicks. im gonna do a version wiht more kicks. |
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| TBC |
DFACE - it's expired, can you please send another link? Thanks. |
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| DFACE DXA |
damn nobody peeped it before it expired. ill look for the file and up it later. cool | ||
| TBC |
Thanks! | ||
| DarkWing |
yo, you guys gotta stop using yousendit lol... gets outdated real quick. |
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| sampling_percussion |
someone is already chippping in with the 1200 i take it? | ||
| ALX |
Whats up with the swing test?
I own an MPC60, MPC2000, MPC2000XL, SP1200. I can do some tests for you. Hit me up. |
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| shawn rudiman |
3k swingi know you're trying to find equivelents accross machines, but on the 60 (w/upgraded os) and the 3k, why not just use the 1/24th or 1/12th quantize to get that feel from the sp's tripplets? you can do swing as well, but why change the variable in the equastion? a 24th's a 24th weather its at 96 ppq or 24 ppq.the swing on the 3k and 60 is the shit imho. the sp tripplets thou are unmistakable and pretty ideal.. ive used the 60 and 3k extensively for the last 15 years.. word. interested to see what comes out of it all.. -shawn |
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| leon freeze |
Re: 3k swing
Looks like no official determination was ever made. High swing percentages or values are cool for real swing timing or some cases triplet programming..notably 16T. It boils down to preference. The SP swing seems to be really exaggerated when used for a slight late feel. Even just one notch in hi-res at double tempo pushes notes pretty late. Comparably, in the 60 or 3000, you have more control. I don't even mess with percentage in the 'timing correct' screen. I just use amount because each amount increment simply pushes your ppqn quant by one notch respectively. So amount 1 = .49, 2 = .50, etc. I like to program drum parts with different amount values usually in 'later' mode to get a cool groove happenin. I'm curious if the 60 swing values shift a little more randomly due to the older CPU, the 3000 is pretty damn solid. One thing I've noticed about the 3000 quant is that it seems to orient around the top note in each bar, which for some reason pushes it slightly earlier than the other notes in the measure. Something I've observed tracking the 3000 in Protools. Anyway, I don't use actual swing timing much myself for general drum programming...could be 'apples vs. oranges' depending on the orientation. |
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