Old SP1200 vs. new SP1200?

Deta!L · Old SP1200 vs. new SP1200?

Ayooooo! any differences between these machines? obviously the black is iller (to me) but is that it? just the shell?

layda

essence

As far as I'm informed, there are actually 3 different SP types :

1. Original grey edition
2. The re-issue with the new black & grey design
3. The second re-issue without the famous SSM2044 filters but with OP-AMPS which emulate these

Since the first re-issue there has been a power supply change so that the new SP's don't get too hot -> no more egg cooking Wink

Deta!L

anyway to tell the second from the 3rd? Should I steer clear from the grey ones then?

Drinks

One has a square switch, the other has a round "push-in" switch.

Deta!L

which is which? and what do yall have?

Drinks

The square switch is the final run. The round 'peg' switch before that. A check of your serial number should confirm this.

I used to own a grey joint and the sampling was very very raw. Too much ring mod on the pitch shifting and it was hot enough to warm my studio up in dead winter with the windows open. Having said that, the filters had a certain je ne sais quoi at the attack stage which my current model lacks.

I'm still happier with the one I have now, if only because it doesn't ring out as much.

Deta!L

I love-a the ring...aye? mine is the round peg

essence

DFACE DXA

Drinks

That's not the switch I'm referring too. What's the serial No? That picture is grey SP. Show me the same switch on a black one.

Drinks

Oh, and btw, its funny how this post is up for almost a year and no-one answers it, then you try to give some insight and all of a sudden, every man and his dog comes out of the woodwork to try and snare you. C'mon mate, a little restraint. If you think you know the answer all along then enlighten the fella.

Still waiting on that serial No. homey.

DFACE DXA

yo drinks i wasnt trynah snare you, and essence was the original poster or knowledge dropper in this case. i dont care whos right itd just about correct info. prove me or essence wrong no big deal, sorry for the sense of hostility, maybe left over from the fierce comment. we were just clown'n. you do you r thing on the sp and youve shared valuable knowledge. no disrepect here sorry for the confusion.

essence

Pilchard

Just to complicate matters....

I have a black model 7030 with a round power switch

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Where does this fit in?

Deta!L

I haVE 7030 ROUND peg, no stickers on the back, model and serial number stickered on the bottom

Drinks

Sorry for the aggro fellas. Hard day at work... Sad

I was referring to a larger square black switch. The pic you put up looks alot like my first grey SP.

I'm with Deta!l, round peg but serial on bottom too. Like Pilchard's though, BLACK.

Ok. Thanks for the insight and for taking time to post up a pic.

I was wondering whether there could be a link between the OPAMPS and the hiss on the outs?

Maybe we can find out whose got the hiss issue and find out what model SP they have and try to come up with a correlation.

Again, apologies. I'll make it up with my next beat Wink

Something Like That

all them joints sound the same except the reissue and one can almost barely tell then. SP is a SP...same sequencer, same workflow so thats all that really matters.

I found that cleaning your SP and servicing the power supply helps get rid of some of the hum.

Also, set your RT parameter to less than or 5 greater then 800 and that really eliminates the freq added when sampling/playback.

Plus..some of you might want to clean your mix out and not just the 8 outs.

Drinks

What I was trying to get at was the hiss (not hum) on the outputs. It is constant and not related to sampling frequency.

As for cleanliness, my SP is very clean so its not that either (I've resoldered dirty connections).

Because some users on here report hissy outputs, I am trying to establish whether there could be a link between that and the issue models which, as far as I can tell, are identical save for the OPAMPS/SSM swap.

Also, I have no model number (just serial) but it is indeed a round switch.

As for all of them sounding the same, my grey SP sounded very different when it was maxed out.

easy now.

Something Like That

what do you mean by 'maxed' out. I have a clean greyboy from japan and I noticed the hiss went away after servicing the psu and adjusting the rt to under 800.

essence

That's interesting guys...I thought there were only 2 different re-issue series, looks like there are more...
I know that the last re-issue was called something like "the final edition" and it had a golden plate with a limited number on it.

Drinks : I have one hissy output on my black first re-issue.

Drinks

Something Like That

Once you enter the phase and open the machine there is a trim knob that you toggle left and right to adjust the RT.

There are a couple buttons you have to press and "folders" to sift thru that require "y" and "n" answers so let me get home and run it on my machine again to make sure I remember correctly. I'll get back to you.

des?

12BIT

so I realize after all this info-we still need to get some idea of the small differences in sound between these three-
i guess its hard to compare the three without actually using the three- but now im really curious-

thx

i have the same model: 7030 with a round power switch

12BIT

I HAVE A ROUND PEG (ON/OFF) WITH 7030 SERIAL STICKER ON BOTTOM- SSM CHIPS INSIDE.. BLACK REISSUE-

IT SEEMS THERE IS SOME CONFUSION OVER THE MODELS AND DIFFERENCE'S..IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE WHAT THERE ACTUALLY IS OUT THERE-