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Deck Daddy

HD floppy drive backup Q

Have anybody with the HD floppy drive from Forat managed to back up beats to a modern computer? I have a USB floppy drive that reads HD floppies and wonder if that fly drive could make floppies that I can make clones of on my MAC and clone onto other disks when I need them. If that would work I would maybe not
have to save each beat on 4 disks just to be shure not to loose it.

The place where I got inexpensive floppies are sold out, so it's back to pricey floppies again...

Can somebody please find a good way to back up beats? No computer-skilled geeks around here? This sucks.
JaeOne3345

Forat's drives don't change the sp-1200 format. They just enable you to use hd disk without taping the hole.

I have been using good quality HD floppies with the hole taped up for awhile with no problems. I kept getting disk errors using new old stock ds/dd floppies, so I said why bother going thru the trouble of getting em from special vendors and ebay?

I wish that dude Jason Watton from omniflop would do a sp-1200 format. I can use omniflop to make images of my s950 disk, but he has no options for e-mu sp-1200. He does have them for emax machines so I am sure it is possible.
DFACE DXA

damn them emu cats for removing the cass out
Deck Daddy

JaeOne3345 wrote:
Forat's drives don't change the sp-1200 format. They just enable you to use hd disk without taping the hole.


Yeah I know, but some newer floppy drives may not recognize a DD disk.

JaeOne3345 wrote:
I have been using good quality HD floppies with the hole taped up for awhile with no problems. I kept getting disk errors using new old stock ds/dd floppies, so I said why bother going thru the trouble of getting em from special vendors and ebay?


Same here, no proplems with HD disks with tape, but often bugs with them DDs.

JaeOne3345 wrote:
I wish that dude Jason Watton from omniflop would do a sp-1200 format. I can use omniflop to make images of my s950 disk, but he has no options for e-mu sp-1200. He does have them for emax machines so I am sure it is possible.


if I get a lot of money, I will hire some serious nerds that can make a new way of storing data from the SP. There MUST be a pretty easy way to do this. Something modern that can replace the floppy drive. Something that just records those signals, that little amount of data that goes to disk.

DFACE DXA wrote:
damn them emu cats for removing the cass out


WORD! So stupid that it can load that way but not save that way. I could just use my old MINIDISC, my mac or some other little digital portable recorder to save all my stuff.
JaeOne3345

Deck Daddy wrote:
Same here, no proplems with HD disks with tape, but often bugs with them DDs.


word. I try to tell cats this. People talk about the horrors of HD with tape but I have more success using a newly manufactured disk with tape then using an old dd/ds disk that has been sitting in surplus storage for 20 years.
peterpiper0815

Well there is an easy way (for backup). Jae talked about that on another board: The cassette interface.
You could record the data-signal as audio to your pc and save it.
Of course its not the fastest way but I think its ok for backup.

Forgive my bullshittin above. I just found out the sp1200 doesnt have the cassette interface Very Happy


What about the emax disk format? Isn't it the same as the sp disk  format?? You could try omniflop with the "emax standard" or "emax (1024 byte sectors) setting.
I couldn't backup my s950 disks with omniflop set to "Akai s950 HD" (ok the program already said that its unconfirmed)  but it works with when its set to "AKAI S series HD 1600"

peace
Deck Daddy

peterpiper0815 wrote:
Well there is an easy way (for backup). Jae talked about that on another board: The cassette interface.
You could record the data-signal as audio to your pc and save it.
Of course its not the fastest way but I think its ok for backup.


I would love to do that, but there is no cassette out on the SP1200. Only on the SP12. The SP1200 can load that way, but not save that way.

Peace
peterpiper0815

BTW does anyone know the tracks/sectors/bytes of the sp1200 disk format??

peace
psoul

i found now this thread...

i was looking for something similar... it's incredibile there's not a way to read and store samples into sp1200... we should find some programmer guy that could do a sort of driver to do this... and the best would be an editor program that convert automatically samples to 26,040 and 12bit and store already into pad....

i think if we find a guy that can do this we could even think to collect some monies here and pay him... and if all go well, after all, we could even sell the program...

btw step by step... anybody here know a pc/mac programmer?
Mr Macks

Good ideas.

In the meantime I found this site in the states that sells new unformatted ds/dd disks (for the embroidery industry which must have a similar situation with older machines with old technology disk drives:

http://www.smrsoftware.com/disks.htm

At about a dollar a disk the price is ok, at least it was last year when one Australian dollar almost got me one US dollar. I bought a bunch of them when I got my SP last year and haven't had any issues with  them.
Drinks

Excellent link Mr. Macks.

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